In previous works, we examined the systematics of magnetic dipole transitions in a single j shell. We here extend the study to large space calculations. We consider the nuclei [Formula: see text]Ti, [Formula: see text]Ti and [Formula: see text]Cr. Of particular interest are the contributions to [Formula: see text] of the spin and orbital parts of the magnetic dipole operator. Whereas usual scissors mode analyses have as an initial state the [Formula: see text] ground state (of an even-even nucleus), we here start with the lowest [Formula: see text] state. This enables us to reach many more states, e.g., [Formula: see text] 1, and 2 and thus get a better picture of the collectivity of this state.